AMD is struggling with the launch of Radeon RX Vega, but it won't help that custom RX Vega cards are suffering from WORSE performance than the reference cards... something that is now being tested.
The new ASUS STRIX RX Vega 64 has been sampled out to a few reviewers so far, with the sites testing the new STRIX card. ASUS' latest Radeon graphics card has a 260W TDP, which is massive - even compared to the already large 240W+ on the reference card. This increased TDP allows for higher clock speeds than the reference card, but does it result in more performance? Nope. Actually, less performance.
At stock frequencies, the Radeon RX Vega 64 reference card loses to the ASUS STRIX RX Vega 64, but when RX Vega 64 reference card is overclocked to its maximum clocks, it BEATS the overclocked and custom ASUS STRIX Vega 64 card.
Update: AMD has provided us with the following statement: "Radeon RX Vega64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days".
Radeon Technologies Group seems to be in a world of tumbles right now, with the SEP on Radeon RX Vega stated to be $399, $499, and $599.
During AMD's recent Ryzen Tech Day in LA, the company underlined the pricing of Radeon RX Vega and the media (including TweakTown) were surprised with the strong pricing of RX Vega. Well, that has all changed after a huge $100 increase in price. Gamers Nexus is reporting that AIB partners confirmed the $499 launch pricing on Radeon RX Vega 64 was a limited time offer, with AMD reportedly offering e-tailers a $100 voucher - now that those vouchers have run out, RX Vega pricing has hit $599.
Stock availability is incredibly low, with AMD blaming day one demand for RX Vega and its incredible reception - but I don't think that's the case. I had an industry source tell me there would be less than 16,000 units available in the months post-launch, and it seems I was right. I've had another source tell me that those numbers are even lower, hovering somewhere in the 5000 region - if that's true, it would be disasterous.
AMD's new Radeon RX Vega graphics cards run a little on the hot side, which is going to open up a huge market for companies to make, and provide new cooling solutions... just like Alphacool.
Alphacool has announced their new Eiswolf 120 GPX-Pro ATI RX Vega all-in-one cooler, and their new Nexxxos GPX ATI RX Vega waterblocks - yeah, that's not a typo, I did mean to say ATI.
Starting with the Eiswolf GPX-Pro ATI RX Vega, we have an all-in-one liquid cooler that features a copper waterblock and pump assembly, teamed with the copper-based Nexxxos radiator. The normal version rocks a 120mm radiator, but there's the option for a bigger 240mm radiator. The kit includes Alphacool's Eisbaer expandable CPU AIO liquid cooler kit, which features spill-minimizing quick release fittings.
AMD might have just launched their next-gen Radeon RX Vega graphics cards with HBM2 in tow, but it looks like SK Hynix and Samsung might be ruining the high-end/enthusiast graphics card market with increases in VRAM pricing.
DigiTimes is reporting that the market prices for graphics memory from both Samsung and SK Hynix rose by over 30% in August, with the blame being placed on both DRAM manufacturers "repurposing part of their VRAM production capacities for server and smartphone memories instead", reports AnandTech.
We should expect VRAM pricing to continue to increase according to DigiTimes' sources, with PC DRAM chips to continue getting more expensive through to 2018. Both Micron and SK Hynix have announced GDDR6 recently, with NVIDIA set to use the new standard on their Volta-based GeForce graphics cards in early 2018.
We don't know if Micron's super-fast GDDR5X memory that's used on GTX 1080, GTX 1080 11Gbps, GTX 1080 Ti, and TITAN Xp will increase - but we should see this in the coming weeks if it happens.
AMD might not be enjoying much positivity with the first waves of Radeon RX Vega reviews, but the company is looking after miners (who they called out and blamed for global GPU shortages in LA two weeks ago) with a new beta driver that provides improved cryptocurrency mining performance.
The new beta driver increases block chain compute performance, with AMD naming the driver "Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition Beta for Blockchain Compute". What does this new driver have on offer?
- This driver is provided as a beta level support driver which should be considered "as is" and will not be supported with further updates, upgrades or bug fixes
- This driver is not intended for graphics or gaming workloads
- Optimized performance for Blockchain Compute Workloads
I'm going to install these drivers soon and run our Radeon RX Vega 56, Radeon RX Vega 64 air-cooled, and Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition through their paces.
AMD has officially released their new Radeon RX Vega family of graphics cards, led by the flagship Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition, and the new GTX 1070 killer with the Radeon RX Vega 56.
Now that we have the gaming stuff out of the way, I wanted to do some testing with Ethereum mining. As much as we get flak for doing mining on graphics cards, there were an overwhelming amount of readers and FB fans asking us for Ethereum performance... so here you go.
There were reports a couple of weeks ago that Radeon RX Vega would be pushing 100MH/s mining Ethereum, and I'm here to tell you that is far from the truth. I never reported on the story because I knew it was bogus and technologically impossible to have Vega pushing 300% above Radeon RX 580 or GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, and now I have Vega in my hands I've done my own testing.
AMD just launched their new Radeon RX Vega 56 and Radeon RX Vega 64 graphics cards (my review here), but this hasn't stopped NVIDIA ramping up the production of 12nm GPUs with TSMC.
NVIDIA's upcoming 12nm production will be ready for next-gen Volta-based GeForce graphics cards that will be released early 2018, and even possibly teased earlier than that. NVIDIA has already released Volta in the form of the AI-ready Tesla V100 graphics accelerator, but it looks like we'll see the 12nm FinFET process and Volta, and I'm sure GDDR6, in early 2018.
Starting in Q4, the company will ramp up 12nm Volta GPU production preparing for the big next-gen GeForce launch. It was only just recently that NVIDIA founder and CEO Jen-Hsun Huang talking to investors, where he said that gamers shouldn't expect a Volta-based GeForce until the end of 2017 or early 2018. Huang said that "Pascal is just unbeatable", and even with Vega here from AMD, I still agree.
Huang continued: "Volta for gaming, we haven't announced anything. And all I can say is that our pipeline is filled with some exciting new toys for the gamers, and we have some really exciting new technology to offer them in the pipeline. But for the holiday season for the foreseeable future, I think Pascal is just unbeatable".
AMD is launching its new Radeon RX Vega graphics cards in a few days, but between now and then - we're allowed to show you something about the card, with no performance numbers just yet. I can tell you that I have the Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition, and the air-cooled Radeon RX 56.
At the top we have the GTX 1080 competitor, while the RX Vega 56 takes on the GTX 1070. We've got them running through their paces as I tap away on this keyboard, but we can show you the inside of the packaging of the RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition. The box itself looks cool, but because it's 11:30PM my time here in South Australia, I'm going to do a FB Live video in the morning my time (10-12 hours from this post going live).
Until then, I've got some pictures to enjoy that I snapped between my frantic benchmarking. More details to follow, with full thoughts on the performance, temperatures, power consumption (uhhh), and some exclusive tests (8K, and some others). It has been an interesting journey so far, with AMD flying a staff member out to my city to hand deliver me my samples. It was down to the wire, and I'm still down 48 hours on other reviewers. This is the rush of a GPU launch!
AMD do include a dead Vega GPU in the box of the Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition, and it's freakin' gorgeous. Vega 10, and those two stacks of HBM2 memory... ugh. Beautiful.
We're hours away from the first part of the AMD Radeon RX Vega embargo, and only a couple of days away from our full review - and already, we're hearing about AMD's next-gen Navi GPU architecture.
Navi is destined for sometime in 2018, and will be baked onto the much smaller 7nm node - but according to our friends at Fudzilla, AMD will be using some dedicated AI circuitry. This isn't new, as NVIDIA has what it calls Tensor cores in their next-gen Volta-based V100 GPU.
The only news here is that AMD is rumored to be building AI-specific technology onto its next-gen GPU, which will mean AMD is pushing more into data centers and AI applications, and away from gamers. There will be a gaming-based Navi GPU, that I'm sure - but AI is the big thing right now, and AMD would be silly to not capitalize on it.
AMD is on the verge of launching their next-gen Radeon RX Vega graphics card family, with the flagship Radeon RX Vega 64 and Vega 56 cards now in reviewers' hands. Our friends at TechGage have already posted up some pictures that were quickly removed.
TechGage received their Radeon RX Vega 64 in a beautiful package, with the reference air version and its RX 480 style design.
RX Vega 64 requires 8+8-pin PCIe power connectors for its huge 295W TDP, while we have 3 x DP 1.4 and 1 x HDMI 2.0 display connectors on the back.